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talion

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Posted at: 6/7/2008 3:48:59 PM

I think this will be a controversial idea, but here it goes:
Most of the players are vulnerable when they sleep at night. And many know the unpleasant feeling of waking up in the morning only to find that your army has been wiped out, or even better, you also lost a few castles (ashelf's case - reason for which long-time no. 1 player of ysabel has quit this game). From my point of view, a game is supposed to be fun, and it's certainly not fun to wake up to find your account ruined in only one night, or to wake up in the middle of the night just to send a few attacks because you know that user x is sleeping then and has his guard down. I know that what i'm saying is not life-like, but i do feel that it would make players happier and that they will sleep easier.
So i suggest that every player can set up in his profile a period of the day of 6 (or maybe 8) hours in which he can't be attacked (and can't attack either, of course). You can log in normally, but you can't use troops (except maybe for reinforcements, but i wouldn't advise that either).
Razvan

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Posted at: 6/9/2008 2:10:45 PM

I like talion's ideea, speed bonuses from research can be lost during this period time.
Hitter

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Posted at: 6/11/2008 10:32:53 PM

"...or to wake up in the middle of the night just to send a few attacks because you know that user x is sleeping then and has his guard down.","(ashelf's case - reason for which long-time no. 1 player of ysabel has quit this game)."

Hmm; point 1 is somehow wrong :"know" that he is sleeping? talk to him, he was online at the attacking times and he was killing my spies, whom btw don`t tell me if he is sleeping or not (or they do if he kills them...); as for nr 1 player, that is correct in the points sistem that works now, but i disagree with it; when a player looses a city, he should loose those construction points and go to the conqueror and as well for alliances.

Ashelf is a valuable player, he can have my account if he wants to play further.But he made a whole strategy to keep that position:build a small army...attack a player...make more points...so on; he never had an army of over 4k palas and 4 k hk; not because he couldn`t do it, but because it wasn`t his strategy. Based on the points sistem that is working now, one player can hold the top position throughout a whole era...so i had to do smth; i never intended to make him stop playing.

as for the first proposal...
suppose 30% don`t play from 06:00 to 14:00, and the rest of 70 % don`t play from 14:00 to 22:00 (most of the ppl playing ysabel are roumanians...)Supose one player from the 30% gets online( in his normal playing hours); that means he can attack the 30%. Much less targets then a guy from the 70%. And what if u are in a different time zone? who can an american player attack ?How long would it take for us to find farms in the correct time zone...

on to the second proposal...
not sure about this one, but if we are so grouped together by the server,it doesn`t help my neighbour, it kills him; insted of me finding other farms and giving him a break, i will allways attack my neighbours during their "sleep time".or, i will lay in the wrong "sleep time" hours...and u got yourself a trap...

i disagree with both proposals, but don`t mind me; it`s my first and last era...
talion

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Posted at: 6/12/2008 3:03:17 PM

About the Ashelf example: I'm sorry that it sparked tensions, it wasn't my intention; I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming anyone for the fact that Ashelf lost interest in playing the game, ultimately it was his decision to make and could have happened to anyone in many circumstances. I was a bit irritated that an active player lost interest in the game and I'm sorry for expressing myself in a way that upset others. So from now on, please discuss the idea solely from a neutral, individual point of view, to avoid any further misunderstandings.
I agree with your point of view regarding the first proposal, Hitter, but i think the second one could still probably be implemented. Setting a different "sleep time" period can be used as a strategy of defense against some, but with the risk of leaving your account more vulnerable during your true "sleep time" period; it's a give/take situation. I don't know, I'm open for any ideas or suggestions.
ciuciu

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Posted at: 6/12/2008 3:06:27 PM

I will start by saying - it's JUST A GAME. You can play it for fun, it's true that some of the players are not playing fair, but most of them do. This topic is made for ideas, some of them are bad, some of them are good, it's something new for a game to lessen players ideas. You can agree or not with them, but with arguments.
And about points, Ashelf won those points (constructions, attacks, defense). If you want to be no 1 player fight for this, don't steal anybody points, it's enough you are taking his castle.
Hitter

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Posted at: 6/12/2008 6:00:03 PM

sim city is boring ciuciu; u are also using hursh words; choose them wisely.to "steal" points? the conqueror fights for them,and wins...
as you proly noticed, i gave you my point of view about more then 1 or two things; what you do with what i said it does not matter; we exchange ideeas, and that is a goood thing.
Razvan

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Posted at: 6/12/2008 8:00:55 PM

I disagree with taking points from another player when taking his castle, it's enough he is losing that castle, quite more than enough. Beside that, he was the one who developed that castle, the points should remain to him.
Hitter

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Posted at: 6/13/2008 7:23:14 AM

each of us has an opinion; it`s called democracy; i didn`t ask for the sistem to change, i just mentioned my opinion.
zare

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Posted at: 6/26/2008 10:03:44 AM

The thing is this whole "not stealing points from player" turns this game into some sort of "counterstrike" where you just frag for the points just to keep the top position. I must say the points sistem does not reflect at all the value of players, as Hitter stated.
admin

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Posted at: 6/26/2008 11:54:25 AM

Point system won't be changed, is just fair the way it is. Read Razvan's post above, I can't explain better that this why I choose to do it this way.
Mogdragon

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Posted at: 6/27/2008 12:43:36 AM

Speaking as a player that has lost a castle, I would be really upset to have lost all the points (that I worked my fanny off to get) as well! It takes a long time and dedication to build a castle to a significant level. And in the end it all really boils down to the points. It is a game after all. All we have as players is the right to say that we hold such and such position on the Top Users page or the HOF page. I really agree with admin that this is the most fair way to do it. Just leave it alone!